here are the subtitles interview for the contactperson on the IARGA-CONTACT_
Translation of Denaerde interview part 1 on the IARGA
(I = Interviewer, D = Denaerde, R = Rudolf Das - the
Scene: the interviewer and Denaerde stand on a shore.
I: Ladies and gentlemen, next to me stands Stefan Denaerde.
He has written a book 'Extraterrestrial civilization'.
Before we start talking about this, I would like to
introduce Stefan Denaerde to you. This is not your real
name is it?
I: What is your age?
D: I am 46 years old
I: You are married?
D: I am married, I have 4 children. Dutchman, I have always
I: What do you do for a living?
D: I am member of the directors board in a medium sized
company in the west of Holland.
I: The reason that we stand here... we are in
Noord-Beverland. Behind me is is Schouwen-Duiveland, in
between lies the Oosterschelde. The reason that we stand
here is that in the first chapter of the book you describe
a meeting with extraterrestrial beings who come from a
planet called Iarga. This meeting supposed to have happened
when you sailed your sail yacht on the Oosterschelde,
probably a little bit more to the west?
D: Indeed, more to the west, about 5 kilometers from here.
I: My question is: how did this contact take place?
D: It happened as a collision between this ship and a
submerged space ship, in fact a space disk, very similar to
the descriptions we have from flying saucers.
I: Did the disk collide with your ship?
D: No, the ship sailed during dusk and run into a submerged
I: That was submerged completely?
D: Not completely, what was above was no more than a flat
piece, which was invisible because of the darkness.
I: What happened after this collision?
D: It seemed that the ship could not detach from the disk,
later it appeared that the disk had a magnetic hull
plating. Then a contact took place with the inhabitants of
I: I have read that you have been given a lot of
information about the planet Iarga during 2 days.
I: In these 2 days you have been given so much information,
that I can hardly image it was just in 2 earth days.
D: Yes, the way the information transfer took place -
according to the book - is different from the way we do
this on earth. Knowledge transfer is a material aspect and
it is possible to enhance this technically. They can induce
memory mutations by means of radiation. It happened as
followed. I was placed before a big screen on which they
showed 3D images and on top of that radiation was added -
inaudible, invisible - which contained information. I heard
I voice with separate words, that explained several details
of the image - height, width, depth, the connection between
two things, etc.
I: Was that a normal image as we know it, with the same
rate of movement?
D: No it was totally different. It was as if you looked
through a window into reality.
I: How did the communication took place?
D: By means of loudspeakers, an electrical system as we
know it too. It was not possible to talk to them directly.
That is explainable because of the difference in frequency
- they talk at a different wave length than we do.
They spoke in English, that is the language they have
extracted from our wireless communication, radio and TV - I
presume. They use a translation device that reproduces
short words, which were voices from earthly people.
I: For example from a BBC news reader?
D: Yes, you could hear male and female voices, sometimes
even pieces of words were pronounced differently.
It was clearly a mix of voices. They have apparently
translated fragments of our language and these fragments
are stored in this device to be reproduced at any time.
That was impression I had.
I: Did it go very slow?
D: There was a pause of one minute between question and
answer so it took quite long, yes.
Scene: the interviewer is in a room with a man behind a
drawing desk, who smokes a pipe.
I: Mr Das, you are technical illustrator who lives in
Aerdenhout. You make drawings for many foreign papers and
magazines. So it was not so strange that Stefan Denaerde
visited you 2 years ago is it?
R: No, I do get more of those people visiting me, who have
written a book that needs to be illustrated.
I: What do you do in this case when someone visits you?
R: I do not dismiss them right away, but see what they have
to offer. Unfortunately this is not much in most cases.
I: Why not?
R: In most cases it is technically incorrect.
I: That is the first thing you look for?
R: Yes, in fact I do. I am a technician and i do find
technical details very important. Most stories I get do not
add up technically and then I stop.
In this case my wife was pushing me to read this book that
was in our house for 2 weeks now, because I had promised to
do that. So finally I started reading it, reluctantly.
While reading I did not notice any discrepancies in the
first 5 pages.
Scene: Denaerde and interviewer on the shore.
D: These creatures are about 1.40 meters long, so smaller
than we are. The most striking is their short legs. They
have a curious, dribbling way of walking and they van use
their long arms to maintain balance.
I: This dribbling way of walking: you mean short passes?
D: Very short passes. Like the walk of a midget. You can
compare it with that. Their faces are totally different.
First they have a heavy armored skull, with a bone ridge on
top, they have a spilt through their forehead, which gives
the impression of the skull being divided into 2 parts.
They have long, sharp ears, understandable when you realize
that in a higher pressure you need higher frequencies.
Lower frequencies cannot be used because of their limited
range. Their eyes are different. They lack an iris.
Their eyeball is white-yellow and contains a diamond shaped
pupil. The eyes are deeper inside the skull for better
protection by pronounced eyebrows.
I: So they do have hairs?
D: They have very little hair. It can be compared with the
hair of a fur.
It looks as if these hairs do not beat trimming or shaving.
I: What color?
D: Different colors. Grey, brown, dark brown, silvergrey
and white, too.
I: Do they have teeth like us?
D: No, they have (artificial) dentures. Not made after
their original teeth, but just seamless white strips, that
work as scissors. This is more efficient, because of lack
of splits where food rests can stick.
Efficiency means a lot to them. Efficiency is part of their
philosophy of live.
Scene: at Rudolf Das
R: When you see the face of a Jargan you get the impfession
of a sort of horse head with a comb on top. This comb could
very well be explained by the higher gravity they have
there. But other features I could not explain.
To me it seemed a bit like a regression, a bit ape-like.
Another weird thing. A book has been written by Desmond
Morris, "the Naked ape". I do not know if know it. But in
it some aspects are mentioned about our looks, that may
have been caused by the ice age we have had. This could
have caused us to abandon living in groups but forded us to
retreat in caves as monogamous couples. This could then
have caused sexual sins on our face, like pointed noses,
ear lobes and lips turned inside out.
The funny thing is that this book appeared later than
Denaerde's script, and I discovered that on the Jargan face
that I had drawn there were no pointed noses, no lips
turned inside out, and no ear lobes. Nowadays you could
say: this was inspired by Desmond Morris. But I must point
out that this was known to me before that time.
part 2 is
with translation on
(this is iarga_Denaredeinterview2.htm)